@howie tiktok verified account

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Scammer username: @howie
Scammer profile UID: 633073
Sales thread link: https://oguser.com/Thread-1-TikTok-Usern...sh-Handles

Deal amount: $2,200
Payment method: USDC Erc-20
TXID (if crypto): 0x9f386fdf905c8e4d8a6d98c8b1f0b8b81ef82d5f746a20e04699f93e586bd194

Was this deal made offsite? Yes/No: Yes
If yes, platform (Discord/Telegram): Telegram
Username: t.me/howie
User ID: 127015141

Detailed description of what happened:

I’ve now learned that @howie sold multiple TikTok accounts that were verified using the same method and the same celebrity/person.

Apparently, one of those accounts recently lost its verification badge/got banned, and TikTok then reviewed all accounts linked to that celebrity. As a result, my account was banned for "impersonation." and lost its verified badge.

Since the ban appears to be directly related to how the account was verified before it was sold to me, and not anything I did, I’m requesting a full refund. The account is no longer usable due to an issue that existed prior to the sale.


Proof (REQUIRED – full screenshots. Upload to imgbb.com):

https://ibb.co/xtq5SRd5 (sending me a screenshot, saying that another verified tiktok account of his is still verified so it wouldnt be the method he is using that got me unverified)
https://ibb.co/jPBqwF2v (TikTok Support telling me the account got banned for "Impersonation")

Staff can request whatever is needed

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@howie respond

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Contact me regarding anything related to onsite username claims, DWC, etc.
Telegram: eviona
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Confirm on-site before dealing.

Contact me regarding anything related to onsite username claims, DWC, etc.
Telegram: eviona
Discord: .eviona

Confirm on-site before dealing.

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Contact me regarding anything related to onsite username claims, DWC, etc.
Telegram: eviona
Discord: .eviona

Confirm on-site before dealing.

Contact me regarding anything related to onsite username claims, DWC, etc.
Telegram: eviona
Discord: .eviona

Confirm on-site before dealing.

I'm sorry that happened to you, but I don't think I should be liable for it. I don't verify the accounts myself, nor do I know the exact process behind how they're verified. If I did, I'd just verify them myself.

That said, some of the claims you're making are incorrect.

First of all, this deal didn't originate on OGU, which is one of the reasons I believe this dispute should have been considered invalid from the start.

Second, the account was not impersonating any celebrity. When you received it, it was clear that it was verified as some kind of institution. The accounts I sell are not all the same type of verification. Some are government/institution verified, some are self-verified personal accounts, and there are other types as well, such as older inactive verified accounts. So the claim that I've sold multiple TikTok accounts verified through the same celebrity/person is simply not true. You're actually the first customer who's had one of these verified accounts banned.

Also, you were specifically instructed not to change anything on the account for at least two days after logging in. You didn't follow that advice. Instead, you immediately changed things, removed or modified account information, made the account private, and started using it normally right away. That was not what I advised.

Proof of our conversation where I told you not to change anything:
https://imgur.com/a/X5hQx3X

Proof that you changed things immediately:
https://imgur.com/a/fJvtssd

Since you didn't follow the instructions I gave you and changed the account immediately after receiving it, I believe that's what led to the account being flagged and ultimately banned. Had you followed my instructions and left the account unchanged for the recommended period, things may have turned out differently.

For that reason, I don't believe I'm responsible for the ban and I don't believe a refund is justified.

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I want to go through his claims one by one with facts and evidence to show that the verified TikTok account he sold me had issues from the start.

1. Proof of mass verification method
The seller claims that he "does not verify the accounts himself" and "does not know the exact process behind how they are verified". This is a lie and goes against what he told me in our chats. When I asked him if the owner of the account was trusted, he told me that he owns it. (https://ibb.co/8D4KKvvB) In his Telegram channel (howie's tiktok shop) he posted a photo of a guy with the caption "this is who you are buying tiktoks from". (https://ibb.co/dsf8nQwY) He clearly owns and used the verification method. He is basically reusing the same persons identity to verify bunch of TikTok accounts. The problem is that once TikTok notices that an identity got used in multiple accounts or that the documents arent legit, they review them and end up banning all the accounts.

2. Changing Username and Impersonation Ban
The seller is trying to blame me for changing the username after buying the TikTok account but that doesnt make sense. If TikTok flags new logins because of a change, it gets treated as a security flag and then locks or flags that account. This isnt the same thing as an impersonation violation. A impersonation ban means TikTok reviewed the account and decided that the identity or verification on that account was being used to impersonate a person. Thats completely different from a temp security lock or flag coming from changing something from the account. Also the claim that he told me not to make the account private or use it normally is not true. The only thing he told me not to do was change the name or the profile picture yet. He never said that I couldnt make the account private or use it normally like everyone does. (https://imgur.com/a/X5hQx3X his screenshot from above)

3. Forum Jurisdiction
The fact that we finished the deal on Telegram doesnt change the fact that OGU is where I found this account. I found it through his OGU thread. Buying it on Telegram doesnt remove his responsibility for selling an account that got banned a little after buying it. At the end of the day, the account didnt get banned for anything I did. One of his verification identities just got patched and because of that I think a refund is justified.

1. I still don't see any proof that I mass verify accounts with the same info or whatever it is you're claiming.
Yes, I owned the account. I bought it 2 days before you bought it, and I've used will to middleman most of my deals: https://imgur.com/a/hGQr7mi
Owning an account does not mean I verified it myself. The screenshot where I said I own it proves nothing other than the fact that I owned it at the time. And honestly, I don't even understand what your second screenshot is supposed to prove. Me posting a random Indian guy's selfie in my Telegram channel somehow means I personally verify accounts and reuse identities? LOL.
You keep making accusations, yet you haven't provided a single piece of proof that I own or operate any verification method. All you've shown is that I owned the account before selling it to you. And again, I have no idea where you're getting this celebrity/public person story from. The account was a government/institution verified account, not some public figure account. Everything you're saying about the verification is simply wrong.

2. You didn't listen to me. You changed everything without waiting, and now you're trying to find a way to blame it on something else.
TikTok even says that changing a username can cause the verification badge to disappear. Does that happen? So don't use that "TikTok said so" loophole on me. I told you not to change anything right away and you did exactly that. That's your responsibility, not mine.

3. No, you did not find this account through OGU. Selling verified TikTok accounts on OGU is prohibited and I do not have any thread up regarding verified TikTok accounts.

So let's make things clear for the last time:

1. This deal did not originate on OGU. I do not have a verified TikTok sales thread here.
   
2. You made changes that you were specifically advised not to make right away.
   
3. As I've always made clear when people ask me, including in the Telegram channel where you found the account, I do not provide any warranty or guarantee for what happens after an account leaves my hands.
   

Instead of trying to blame others and get your money back, I recommend listening to the seller when they tell you something. I'm done here and I don't think I have anything else to add. It's pretty clear that you're in the wrong here and that this dispute should have been considered invalid from the start instead of just getting an "@howie respond."
Sorry that happened to you. $2.2k is definitely a lot of money but take the loss and learn the lesson.

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Okay, lets say you bought the account too. The account still didnt get its badge removed, but it got banned for impersonation.

I changed the username before the 2 days and I would get it if the badge was removed, but getting an impersonation ban for it doesnt make any sense at all. In this screenshot you can see that you told me that I can do changes now, which was 2 days after I bought it and you told me that it cant get debadged. (https://ibb.co/HfrYf2XJ) After that message I started changing everything else.

I found you from your thread where you are selling TikTok usernames. (https://oguser.com/Thread-1-TikTok-Usern...sh-Handles) If you go on the linked Telegram channel, one of the first messages you see is that youre selling verified TikTok accounts. (https://ibb.co/ZRMqZWv7) Stop trying to find loopholes.

Its literally your responsibility to inform others about things that could happen to the account, which you did not do. You really cant say that you are not the one to blame here, because you sold me an account that was verified with an sketchy method. TikTok Support even confirmed that it was banned for impersonation, which only happens if the documents that was used to verify the account are fake or flagged.

1. I think being nice doesn't help you understand, sorry, you're retarded. Guess who triggered the ban? You.
I told you what my supplier told me and you didn't follow it. You changed your name, pfp, bio, everything; you triggered it, congrats that's on you, and honestly, I don't give a flying fuck nigga. Matter of fact, you deserve it.

2. Sorry to tell you that I don't even mention anywhere on OGU that I'm selling verified TikToks. Let me know if you see anything mentioned about verifieds here: https://imgur.com/a/BcV1WD9

You also messaged me on the 21st (9 days before you bought your veri) for the first time regarding a username, so don't try to play it smart saying "the deal originated on OGU." Fuck no it didn't. Even if it did, this is all your fault: https://imgur.com/a/KQOcVQ7

I informed you of what I was told to inform you of: don't change anything for two days after login and you did as soon as you logged in. You were the one who triggered it and you're the one at fault. I don't owe you shit G. End of the story.

Woman takes accountability
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If changing anything was the issue, then the badge wouldve gotten removed instead of the account getting banned for impersonation. Those are 2 completely different things.

You keep reapeating that I changed the infos too early, but you havent provided a single proof that changing the profile within 2 days gets you banned for impersonation.

The fact is that your Telegram channel is promoted here on OGU and thats how people find you. Basically youre indirectly selling verified TikTok accounts.

Just because you assume how things happened, calling me retard and saying I deserve it doesnt prove that I caused the ban.

All you did so far is repeat the same assumption over and over again without any proof how me changing my username before 2 days and then changing everything else 2 days after when you told me I can, caused the ban.

Im done arguing with you and will wait for a staff to reply to solve this problem. I am sure that my account was mass verified and that I did nothing wrong here.